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at this moment, its 49.5% of the two-party vote for obama. >> reporter: so the polls and models call it a toss-up. but curiously, the betting public tells a very different story. online betting prediction markets, like ireland's intrade, which takes bets from americans, and england's betfair, which doesnt, have made obama the strong favorite for months. the lone domestic and entirely legal betting haven, the iowa electronic maets at the university of iowa. ever frugal, we asked hari srinivasan, our man in the midwest-- at least last week-- to drop in. >> sreenivasan: this is the entire iowa electronic market? >> this is our server room right here. >> sreenivasan: so the entire prediction markets right here? >> in that little box. >> reporter: granted, a visual letdown but this is what electronic betting looks like everywhere. in iowa, a machine through which 1600 people are constantly betting, with a $500 limit per punter. the odds on iem, according to its proprietor, joyce berg? >> right now, the markets are favoring obama. if you look at the winner-take- all market, that market is showing th
. >> reporter: with the race still tight both president obama and mitt romney watched closely. >> the president: i thought joe biden was terrific. i could not be prouder of him. >> reporter: they even shared a few laughs with >> i think the vice president knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. [ laughing ] >> but i always say what i mean. >> reporter: that got a lot of laughs. the next big debate is next tuesday when president obama and mitt romney go head-to-head for their second debate that will take place in new york. brandi hitt, abc7 news. >>> that second debate next week is at hofstra in new york in a town hall meeting format, abc 7 will carry it live tuesday night starting at 6 p.m.. >>> a's fans are thanking their team for a fantastic season, one that halls come to an end but not for lack of trying. the team could not manage one more win to advance in the playoffs. the tigers dominated the a's last night in the final game of their series shutting them out 6-0. fans say it was a great ride and in losing gave their team a standing ovation. >> on the oth
in his federal income tax. >> reporter: ryan went after president obama for his response to the u.s. consulate attack in libya. >> it took the president two weeks to acknowledge that this was a terrorist attack. >> reporter: while biden challenged ryan's proposed changes to medicare. >> you are jeopardizing the program. you're changing the program from a guaranteed benefit. >> reporter: it was a more heated back and forth than the first presidential debate. and biden often laughed at ryan's arguments. >> joe biden understood tonight he had to go back out there and do what president obama failed to do last week. >> reporter: with the race still tight for president obama and mitt romney, watched closely. >> i thought joe biden was terrific tonight. i couldn't be prouder of him. >> reporter: and in the end, the running mates shared a few laughs. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> i always say what i mean. >> reporter: that got a lot of laughs last night. the next big debate is next tuesday. that's when
to the gates of hell. >> what we are watching is the unraveling of the obama foreign policy. >> reporter: joe biden and paul ryan came ready to rumble. ryan, the intense young gun. biden, the wily elder statesman who grinned like an old possum as he listened to ryan's attacks. then came right back at him, biden style. >> with all due respect, that's a bunch of mularkey. >> reporter: it got heated. it got testy. >> that's a $3,200 benefit cut. >> that didn't happen. more people signed up. more people signed up for medicare advantage after the change. nobody is -- >> mr. vice president -- >> reporter: and what a contrast. throughout the debate, biden smiled. smirked. grinned and cackled. >> medicare and social security are going bankrupt. >> reporter: ryan was earnest, intense, super see use. and they grappled all night. on the economy, biden unloaded, attacking mitt romney where president obama had not, on that video tape where romney called 47% of the american people victims who won't take responsibility for their lives. >> these people are my mom and dad, the people i grew up with. my neighb
there and do what president obama failed to do last week. >> reporter: with the race still tight, both president obama and mitt romney, watched closely. >> i thought joe biden was terrific tonight. i could not be prouder of him. >> reporter: and in the end, their running mates even shared a few laughs. >> i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> i always say what i mean. >> reporter: that got a lot of laughs last night. now, the next big debate is next tuesday. that's when we see president obama and mitt romney faceoff for round two in new york. reporting live in danville, kentucky, brandi hitt. rob and paula, back to you. >> look forward to round two. abc's brandi hitt reporting this morning from danville, kentucky. thanks, brandi. >>> and president obama, as you heard, gave vice president biden's performance a thumbs-up last night. he watched the debate aboard air force one, returning from one of his last fund-raising events before the election. the president chided mr. romney for calling himself, quote, severe
of malarky. >> reporter: ryan said the obama administration allowed iran to get closer to obtaining a nuclear weapon. >> it's because this administration has no credibility on the issue. >> these are the most crippling sanctions in the history of sanctions. >> reporter: president obama was criticized for being too passive in last week's debate. vice president biden seemed determined not to make that same mistake. >> but it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who said 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. >> they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: ryan said the obama administration has failed the middle class. >> we're going in the wrong direction. look at where we are. the economy is barely limping along. >> reporter: side by side at the same table, biden and ryan were not shy about directly engaging each other, sometimes with harsh attacks, sometimes with humor. >> i think the vice president very well knows that some times the words don't come out of your mouth the r
. >> what we he unraveling of the obama policy. >> reporter: the two sparring over the hot button issue of health care. >> obamacare takes $716 from medicine cage to spend on obamacare. >> what we did is we saved $716 billion and put it back, applied it to medicare. we cut the cost of made care. we stopped overpaying insurance companies and doctors and hospitals. >> the vice president trying to shift the momentum after mitt romney's strong showing at last week's debate. his 42-year-old rival keeps fighting back. >> i know you are under a lot of during rest to make up for lost ground but i think people will be better served if we don't keep interrupting each other. >> reporter: that is the way it went all night long. after last night's debate, the focus turns back to the two candidates at the top of the ticket. president obama and mitt romney will have their second debate next tuesday. >> that next debate is next week at hofstra university in new york. the final match-up is set for the # 2nd florida. we will carry the next two debates live here on fox 5. -- the final match-up is set for
who voted for barack obama to come and join our team. >> reporter: 19% of voters in colorado say they're less likely 26 vote for the president because of the debate. while 26% say they're more likely to vote for romney. >> are you going to go to volleyball? >> reporter: liz payne of denver responded to our poll. >> rep she was leaning towards romney before the debate and now she's dential de >> presidential debates definitely made me more likely to vote for romney because of the confidence he instilled. i felt like he had better answ answers. and definitely just really appeared much more presidential than than president obama did. >> r >> reporter: on the plus side for the president, 40% of s econom voters believe their state's economy is improving. mlf say mr. obama would be more helpful to the middle class. in the race for virginia's 13 electoral votes, the president is holding his lead. 49% believe the president has clearly explained his plans compared to 34% for romney. independent arnold grunderman of ing towaeld, virginia, is leaning toward the president but done whervations. >>
. that is what we are watching in our tv screen unraveling of the obama foreign policy. >>reporter: would he repeat the line several times during the debate but unlike the presidential debate biden faster to fire wac. >> with all due respect that's a bunch of malarkey. not a single thing he said is being rat. he appeared to be debating romney that 47 percent of the country pays no federal income tax. >> i have had it up to here with the notion that 47 percent it's about time they take some responsibility here. instead of signing pledges to grover norquist not to ask the wealthiest to contribute to bring back the middle class they should be signing a pledge saying to the middle class we are going to level the playing field. >> they come in and inherit that situation. absolutely. we are going if the wrong direction. look where we are. the economy is barely limping along. it's growing at 1.3 percent. that's slower than it grew last year and last year slower than the year before. with respect to that quote i think the vice president very well knows that sometimes the words don't come out
you give the tax cut for the super- wealthy. >> reporter: after president obama's lackluster debate last week, some feel joe biden was on the attack. >> that's a bunch of malarky. >> because he doesn't have a record that is defendable, he keeps to raise his voice. >> any time the right is going after you on stop wins, you know you've won the argument. >> reporter: despite biden's strong performance it may not be enough to erase president obama's weak performance in denver. the real test will be when the candidates square off next week. reporting from danville, kentucky. i'm sandra endo. >>> a fire destroys a home in san jose. we'll tell you you why the flames weren't the only concern for neighbors. >> and it's another cool, gray die outside. rosemary says a change is coming. she's gonna tell you when and where. >> it's just ban remarkable change -- been a remarkable change. >>> and a trip to the suisun bay. x@ñññé >>> the retired space shuttle "endeavour" is taking a break from its snail's pace journey to its new permanent home in l.a. it left the hangar overnight and is on its
and poised. >> reporter: the obama campaign said the vice president walked away with the win, but friday the white house had to defend his answer about the deadly attack in benghazi, libya. >> we weren't told they wanted more security. >> reporter: former security officials testified this week that they had asked for more manpower. >> he's doubling down on denial and we need to understand exactly what happened. >> reporter: white house officials defended the vice president. >> matters of security personnel are appropriately discussed and decided upon at the state department by those responsible for it. >> reporter: libya is among the issues that both presidentialed cans are expected to discuss -- presidential candidates are expected to discuss in their debate tuesday. danielle nottingham, cbs news the white house. >> president obama will spent the next few days in williamsburg, virginia, preparing for next week's debate. romney plans to campaign in ohio saturday. >>> you saw us at the top of the show, everybody down at nats park saying it's freezing. topper shutt in the weather center
your common sense. who do you trust on that? >> reporter: president obama is proud of his running mate's perform manuals. today he's at the white house preparing for his next debate against mitt romney. in a cbs news poll of uncommitted voters taken right after the debate, 50% thought vice president biden won. >> these guys bet against america all the time. >> reporter: other polls gave ryan the edge. >> this is what politicians do when they don't have a record to run on. try to scare people from voting for you. >> reporter: it remains to be seen if last night's showdown will sway voters. his torians say the past eight vice presidential debates had almost no affect on the election. danielle nottingham, cbs news, the white house. >>> mitt romney and president obama's next meeting will be a town hall style in new york on tuesday. then their final debate will take place october 22 in florida. >>> well, the komen three-day walk for the cure is under way. participants gathered r the opening ceremonies and the first leg of their 60-mile journey this morning. the walkers are looking to raise
of your mouth the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. >> reporter: what about the obama stimulus, the recovery? >> job growth in september was slower than it was in august and august was slower than it was in july. we're heading in the wrong direction. >> 5.2 million new jobs -- private sector jobs. >> was it a good idea to spend taxpayer dollars on electric cars in finland or on windmills in china? >> this was exactly what we needed to stop us from going off the cliff. >> reporter: can a middle class tax hike be prevented if the wealthy get a tax cut? >> it's not mathematically possible. >> it is mathematically possible. it's been done before. it's precisely what we're proposing. >> it has never been done before. >> reporter: on the style side, biden smiled a lot. ryan, a debate rookie, kept his cool. so did ryan add to the romney momentum or did biden help put the obama campaign back on track? now the pollsters go to work to try to figure that out while voters digest the second of four debates. in danville, kentucky, i'm steve handlesmen, nbc news, lynn, back to you. >>> steve,
. >> joe biden was terrific. >> reporter: president obama stayed in washington today but for everyone else, campaigning picked right up again. mitt romney began in virginia, a state democrats say republicans want to take back. >> virginia is going to get me the white house. >> reporter: vice president biden went to paul ryan's home state. >> anyone who watched that debate, i don't think this is any doubt that congressman ryan and it, governor romney and the president have a fundamentally different vision for america. >> reporter: people are keeping one eye on the debates , the other on polls. mitt romney is pulling ahead in florida, 51% support compared to 44%, a month ago the president was ahead by 1%. factor in the mar margin of error, dead heat in the poll. another reason people are looking forward to tuesday night tings second of three presidential debates. >>> we'll be right back. barnhill: you hear a lot of talk about question seven... so let me tell you what i know: if question seven passes, my company's going to... bring table games, like blackjack and poker... right here to balti
is at the debate site in danville, kentucky. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning. both candidates came here on a mission. congressman ryan to criticize the obama administration's failures and republican solutions while vice president biden was defending the presidential record and also complaining about the republican plan for the nation. >> i will be very specific -- >> reporter: vice president joe biden wasted no time challenging congressman paul ryan's take on foreign policy. >> with all due respect that's a bunch of malarky. not a single thing you said is accurate. >> reporter: the vice president and ryan clashed over the economy. taxes. and medicare. with the democrat often on the attack. >> they are holding hostage the middle class tax cut. about time they take some responsibility. >> reporter: but ryan fired back. he slammed the obama administration's economic record. >> this is not what a real recovery looks like. we need real reforms for a eal recovery and that's what mitt romney and i are proposing. >> reporter: after several heated exchanges ryan said romney's performance la
. >> reporter: but ryan fired back. he slammed the obama administration's economic record. >> this is not what a real recovery looks like. we need real reforms for at that real recovery and that's what mitt romney and i are proposing. >> reporter: after several heated exchanges ryan said romney's performance last week is motivating the vice president. >> i know you're under a lot of stress to make up. >> reporter: as for who won it depends who you ask. polls are mixed. in a cbs news poll of uncommitted voters 50% thought the vice president won. 31% sided for ryan and 19% called it a tie. not surprisingly both sides claimed victory. mitt romney's campaign said biden seemed off balance and strange. the president's team said the debate exposed the risk of electing a romney/ryan ticket. the candidate also disagreed over foreign policy. congressman ryan pointing to the death of four americans in libya as the administration weakness on abroad while biden said romney's campaign talks first before they know what the facts are. back to you. >>> that cbs news poll found the overall impressions of both
own. >> reporter: ollie figures biden won. >> i will vote for obama, period. >> last night helped? >> just convinced it. >> reporter: paul ryan was upbeat this morning. >> i feel great. >> reporter: in danville last night, ryan drank a lot of water but didn't sound nervous. >> job growth in september was slower han in august. >> reporter: joe biden smiled a lot. some say condescendingly. >> 5.2 million new jobs. >> reporter: he denied a cover-up of an al qaeda attack in libya. >> the intelligence community told us that, as they learned more facts about exactly what happened. they changed their assessment. >> reporter: president obama was pleased. >> i thought joe biden was terrific tonight. i could not be prouder of him. >> reporter: but mitt romney charged today biden doubled down on the denial when he said we weren't told u.s. diplomats in libya asked for more security. >> when the vice president of the united states directly contradicts the testimony, sworn testimony of state department officials, american citizens have a right to know just what's going on. >> reporter: back in
? >> reporter: well, i think just watching what president obama and mitt romney have been arguing about, gives you a road map on what we expect to hear tonight. you will hear arguments over the budget, over medicare and taxes. and these two men, remember, paul ryan and joe biden were on opposite sides of the negotiating table, during the super committee on the failed budget, where they failed to reach agreement. so they have a lot of past history and will air their arguments in public. you will also hear joe biden bring up abortion, because mitt romney said just this week he didn't know of any legislation that he would go after abortion if he was elected. well, he and his team walked that back, but joe biden is going to try to interest women voters. and then, there is benghazi, you know they will go after that, a lot of criticism on the hill, spreading out after the campaign. both of them believe this is a way to get at the president and joe biden, their experience on foreign policy and try to dent their record. >> andrea mitchell, who will have a great seat tonight. thank you. >>> and with us
. >> reporter: after several heated exchanges, ryan insinuated that president obama's performance last week was motivating the vice president. >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost ground. >> reporter: as for who won, it depends on who you ask. instant polls taken right after the debate are mixed. in a cbs news poll of uncommitted voters, 50% thought the vice president won. 31% sided for ryan, and 19% called it a tie. 56% thought biden would be an effective president if necessary compared with 49% for ryan. not surprisingly, both sides claimed victory. mitt romney's campaign said biden seemed off balance and strange. the president's team said the debate exposed the risks of electing a romney/ryan ticket. the next presidential debate is tuesday. >>> while democrats are pleased with vice president biden's performance it's unclear whether his aggressive style was offensive or convincing to the independents who will hold the margin of victory in the presidential election. >> randall, let's talk more. it was obviously interesting to watch. what were the s
. >> reporter: after several heated exchanges ryan insinuated that president obama's performance last week was motivating the vice president's >> mr. vice president, i know you're under a lot of duress to paining up for lost ground. >> reporter: as for who won, it depends on how you ask. instant polls taken rye after the debate are mixed. -- in a cbs news poll of uncommitted voters, 50% thought the vice president run, 31% sided for ryan and 19% called it a tie. 56% thought biden would be an effective president if necessary compared with 49% for ryan. not surprisingly, both sides claimed victory. mitt romney's campaign said biden seemed off balance and strange. the president's team said the debate exposed the risks of electing a romney/ryan ticket. the next presidential debate is tuesday. randall pinkston, cbs news, danville, kentucky. and we can expect those poll results to change in the coming days as the samples are increased and the polling organizations dig deeper on the impact of these first and only vice-presidential debates. reporting live in danville, kentucky, i'm randall pinkston
for obama care. >> reporter: abc's martha raddatz pressed both of them. challenging biden to explain the white house's shifting stories on the attack that killed the u.s. ambassador to libya. >> when people in the consulate first saw armed men attacking, with guns, there were no protesters. why did that go on for weeks? >> because that's exactly what we were told by the intelligence community. >> it's indicative of a broader problem. that what we're watching on our tv screens is the unraveling of the obama foreign policy. >> reporter: score one for ryan there. but when ryan slammed the administration's $800 billion stimulus bill, biden was ready with this. >> he sent me two letters saying, by the way, can you send me some stimulus money for companies here in the state of wisconsin? we sent millions of dollars. you know why he said -- >> you did ask for stimulus money, correct? >> sure he did. >> for two occasions, we advocated for constituents applying for grants. that's what we do. we do that for all constituents. >> i love that. i love that. this is such a bad program. and he write
they take some responsibility. >> reporter: but ryan fired back. he slammed the obama administration's economic record. >> this is not what a real recovery looks like. we need real reforms for real recovery and that's exactly what mitt romney and i are proposing. >> reporter: ryan insinuated that president obama's debate performance last week was motivating the vice president. >> i know you're on a lot of duress to make up for lost ground. >> reporter: as for who won, it depends on who you ask. polls taken right after the debate are mixed. in a cbs news poll of uncommitted voters, 50% thought the vice president won. 31% sided for ryan and 19% called it a tie. 56% thought biden would be an effective president if necessary compared with 49% for ryan. not surprisingly, both sides claimed victory. mitt romney's campaign said biden seemed off balanced and strange. the president's team said the debate exposed the risks of electing a romney-ryan ticket. the next presidential debate is tuesday. randall pinkston, cbs news, danville, kentucky. >> if you plan in voting in maryland, d.c. or virg
was not referring to the administration. >> reporter: questions about why the obama administration initially seemed to downplay the attack that cost the lives of four americans, including ambassador chris stevens are not going away. secretary of state hillary clinton today for the first time faced reporters on the issue. >> to this day, we do not have all the answers. no one in this administration has ever claimed otherwise. >> reporter: and the white house continued to point out that many of the same republicans who are questioning the administration's refusal to send more security agents to libya are the same republicans who tried to cut funding for diplomatic security. diane? >> all right, jake. and i'll see you this sunday, we'll all be watching, as martha raddatz also joins you there to weigh in on the big debate. along with vice president biden's son, beau, and governor mitt romney's debate sparring partner, senator rob portman, "this week" this sunday. >>> overseas now, and the latest on the heroic young girl, shot by the taliban because she made a public appeal for girls to get to go to sch
.c. newsroom with a look at why some other says the vice president went too far. alison. >> reporter: president obama said his vice president did a great job. but some republicans are accusing joe biden of being down right disrespectful. according to republicans, biden interrupted paul ryan 82 times at least during the 90 minute debate. here's one example when ryan tried to make the case the president's health care plan caused seniors to lose medicare benefits. >> more people signed up for medicare advantage after the change. nobody -- >> mr. vice president i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for loss ground. but i think we would be better than interrupting me. >> reporter: democrats say he offered a very powerful defense of president obama's policies and critique of romney's plans. another contentious exchange involved the obama's administration response last month in libya. i'll have more on that during my next update. reporting live from washington, d.c. alison burns ktvu channel 2 news. >> so how will you vote? you can take the ktvu election quiz on our facebook page. >>> 5:14 is
. >> 5.2 million new private sector jobs. >> reporter: he denied obama covered up the al qaeda attack in libya. >> the intelligence community told us that about exactly what happened, they changed their assessment. >> i thought joe biden was terrific tonight. i could not be prouder of him. >> reporter: but mitt romney charged today biden doubled down on denial when he said, quote, we weren't told u.s. diplomats in libya asked for more security. >> when the vice president of the united states directly contradicts the testimony, sworn testimony of state department officials, american citizens have a right to know just what's going on. >> reporter: back in cincinnati, a bakery is polling ohio voters with cookie sales. so far, it's obama in the lead. just four days until the president and mitt romney tangle again in their second debate on long island. live from cincinnati, steve hand elsman, news4. >>> when we come back this afternoon, a hidden camera investigation. what you need to know about chimney sweep scams. before you light up your fireplace this fall. >>> the actress who is front-
of sanctions. >>reporter: president obama was criticized for being too passive in last week debate. vice president biden seemed determined not to make that same mistake. >> shouldn't be surprising for guy who says 47 percent of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own life. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pay ins his federal income tax. >>reporter: but ryan said ought become administration failed the middle class. >> we are going in the wrong direction. look where we are. the economy is barely limping along. >>reporter: side by side at the same table biden and ryan were not shy about directly engaging each other. sometimes with harsh attack sometimes with human oyvrment i think the vice president very well know that is sometimes the words don't come out of your mouth the right way. >> i always say what i mean. >>reporter: with the poll tightening the president needs to fire up the base and romney needs to convert 2008 obama voters. in in kentucky they got strong performance from the running mate. this is danvill danville, kentucky. >
a slugfest of a debate that featured more fireworks than the debate between president obama and mitt romney. but who won? brandi hitt reports. >> reporter: the showdown between the vice president and paul ryan was full of attacks. >> it has been done a couple of times. >> has never been done. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy! gentleman 23 million minutes are struggling for work. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost round. [ laughing ] >> reporter: biden laughed at ryan throughout the debate. he challenged mitt romney's tax plan for aggressively than president obama did in his debate. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: the moderator martha raddatz set it was more intimate. >> the jabs felt more personal. >> reporter: both sides claiming victory as they head back on the campaign trail to rally more support. debate was a tie. biden brought energy the dem
between president obama and mitt romney. but who won? brandi hitt reports. >> reporter: the showdown between the vice president and paul ryan was full of attacks. >> it has been done a couple of times. >> has never been done. >> jack kennedy lowered tax rates. >> now you're jack kennedy! gentleman 23 million minutes are struggling for work. >> i know you're under a lot of duress to make up for lost round. [ laughing ] >> reporter: biden laughed at ryan throughout the debate. he challenged mitt romney's tax plan for aggressively than president obama did in his debate. >> it shouldn't be surprising for a guy who says 47% of the american people are unwilling to take responsibility for their own lives. they pay more effective tax than governor romney pays in his federal income tax. >> reporter: the moderator martha raddatz set it was more intimate. >> the jabs felt more personal. >> reporter: both sides claiming victory as they head back on the campaign trail to rally more support. debate was a tie. biden brought energy the democrats wanted and ryan brought seriousness the republicans ne
sense. who do you trust on this? >> reporter: president obama says he is proud of his running mate's debate performance. today, the president is at the white house preparing for his next debate against mitt romney. in a cbs news poll of uncommitted voters taken right after the debate, 50% thought vice president biden won. >> these guys bet against america all the time. >> reporter: or polls gave ryan the edge. >> this is what politicians do when they don't have a record to run on, try to scare people from voting for you. >> reporter: it remains to be seen if last night's showdown will sway voters. historians say the past 8 vice- presidential debates had no effect on the election. danielle nottingham, cbs news, the white house. >>> for more political coverage, just check out our exclusive presidential forum on cbssf.com. every day, the candidates weigh in on a different issue. >>> up next, popping sleeping pills may help you sleep but there are some side effects for those who might have insomnia. >> plus, the final journey begins for endeavour. you're looking live as the space shutt
the right way. >> but i always say what i mean. and so does romney. >> reporter: what about the obama stimulus, the recovery? >> job growth in september was slower than it was in august and august it awas slower than it was in july. we're heading in the wrong direction. >> with 5.2 million new jobs, private sector jobs. >> was it a good idea to spend taxpayer dollars on electricing cars in finland or windmills in china? >> this is exactly what we needed to stop us from going off a cliff. >> reporter: can a middle tax health hike be prevented? >> not mathematically possible. >> it is, it's been done before. >> it has never been done before. >> reporter: on the style side, biden smiled. a lot. ryan a debate rookie kept his cool. i'm steve handelsman, nbc news, danville, kentucky. >> both campaigns are holing their own debate watch parties across virginia tonight. the republicans set up their office in arlington to watch paul ryan work in the debate. one of mitt romney's son, ben, stopped by to meet with voters there. democrats gathered at a watch party in fairfax to watch biden's debate
what is going on. we will find out. >>reporter: the romney campaign going after the obama campaign for suggesting the only reason the murders are an issue is because romney and ryan are making it one. romney said the reason it is an issue is because an american consulate was attacked by terrorists and four americans are dead. trace? >>trace: thank you, john roberts, from virginia. our g.o.p. strategist and former texas political director for bob dole's campaign and a democratic consultant and former advisor to senators john kerry and ted kennedy. anthony, i don't know if you could hear this, if you look across the board here, it was either a draw or joe biden had a little bit of an edge in some of the polls. that is on content. on style the vice president got hammered for the smirks and the laughs and the smiles. >> this is important. he came across as a bully. in question. i stopped counting the interrupts at 40, i thought that was enough. he was aggressive. he could not defend the failed policy of the last four years. so he attacked. he interrupted. he chastiseed the moderator. i
posted an important blog reporting the rift between presidents obama and clinton and that rift has opened over the stunning benghazi fallout. ben klein joins us now, an old friend of the show. thank you very much. look, this is off the daily caller is where i see it if it may be elsewhere it may be elsewhere. hillary is in a heap of trouble because stuff is coming out now that she knew this baurpt a video spontaneous administration. she had to know that security calls were being made by the local consulate and inside the state department and yet she went along with the party line. you're saying her husband is trying to find a way to extricate her. how is he going to do that? >> bill is concerned and this is from my sources in the clinton camp that hillary will be thrown under the bus by barack obama and the chicago gang running his campaign and he has reached out to friends in the legal profession to figure out if she's number one, subpoenaed and in her memos and her documents are subpoenaed. should she appear or say this is executive privilege and not appear. >> she's in a pretty tough s
everything from social security and taxes. >> it has never been done before. >> reporter: the candidates fought over whether the obama administration dismissed security concerns at the u.s. consulate in libya. >> we were not told they wanted more security. >> reporter: it was topic number one, a charged moment in the night for the wisconsin congressman. >> ronald reagan -- >> oh, now, your jack kennedy. >> reporter: as predicted by the campaign, the vice president came out grinning, flapping, flailing arms. >> we will have credibility on this issue. >> incredible. >> thank goodness we have these sanctions in place, in spite of their opposition. discredited by studies, over a 100 criminal investigations. >> reporter: along the way, the vice president cut in. >> >> mr. vice president, i know you're under duress -- >> reporter: he talked about the auto bailout. >> when had mr. romney said that he was a car guy, i thought well if they have them in an elevator, i guess he was. >> reporter: for a group of undecided voters put together in virginia, a split decision. this voter thought mr. biden
verified this math. report very to counter the attacks from the obama campaign, romney campaign pointing out the president's plan to raise taxes on the wealth of the americans who are race 710,000 jobs. >>trace: we talked about this libya thing, governor romney responding to the vice president's libya remarks. >>reporter: the romney campaign is going after the vice president about the comments on the benghazi consulate. particularly in light of what the state department officials testified to earlier in the week on the stump in richmond, virginia, governor romney says it raises a lot of troubling questions, new questions about the attack. >> when the vice president of the united states directly ton extra -- contradicts the sworn testimony of state officials american citizens have the right to find out what is going on. we will find out. >>reporter: the romney campaign going after the obama campaign for suggesting the only reason the murders are an issue is because romney and ryan are making it one. romney said the reason it is an issue is because an american consulate was attacked by ter
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